Showing posts with label Jefferson City Captial Building. Show all posts
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Sunday, June 2, 2013

*BEST OF DTB #51* The Catholic Defender: Discussion with a Pentecostal friend

While in my travels across Missouri, I had the opportunity to work with people from across the Country who are strongly pro-life and work towards ending abortion.

There is a frustration that after 38 years, many politicians are "pro-life" to get the votes for political purposes.

The ending of abortion is not the primary mission to them as keeping the battle is giving them votes.

We need to put a stop to abortion after 38 years and nearly 60,000,000 unborn children sacrificed to the god of convenience.

There are many people to thank for their hospitality and love supporting us ensuring that we were never in need on this journey. The food was really great everywhere we went before and after the Rally for Life on 22 January 2011 at Jefferson City at the Capital Building.

It was at one such dinner engagement that the following story develops. As the Ladies were preparing dinner, I was sitting at the dining room table with a small group of people.

It is important to note that the vast majority of those present were Catholic, but there was this one Pentecostal friend who began to discuss his thoughts on the Catholic Church. Being the Catholic Defender, what is the obvious response? You got it, a fun debate ensues.

As we began to enter into this discussion, people began to gather around because most of them have never heard a Catholic response to some of the Protestant accusations.

My Pentecostal friend was not an ignorant man. He was a Doctor very dedicated to his beliefs. He also ran for office in the State of Ohio and lost by a small majority. He is a very articulate speaker. But on this night, at this time, he had the misfortune of challenging the Catholic Defender in his own backyard (lol).

Don't you just love the rhetoric? His challenge was quick and to the point. He felt that we, as Catholics, were "idol worshipers" because our belief in Jesus in the Eucharist.

My first response to this was John 6:53-56, "Jesus said to them, 'Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him".

I shared with him that just as people in those days had problems with this teaching, many people today can't accept this either. His response was a bit odd to me, he began to reason that if you believe in transubstantiation, then you are in effect saying you are God?

That sense of reasoning made no sense to me. Especially coming from a Pentecostal who has no problem recognizing the Holy Spirit entering into people's hearts. I responded back to him the importance of the definition of transubstantiation and the 4th Lateran Council in 1215.

Pope Innocent III was having to deal with heresies at that time especially attacking the apostolic teaching on the Eucharist. New "gospels" developed by "Fr" John Huss and John Wycliffe challenged the Lord Jesus Christ denying the truths of the Catholic Church.

The problem wasn't so much the vernacular version of the bible as much as it were the problems associated with misinterpreting the scriptures. Those were tough times in those days as the common man still did not know how to read and write.

The ignorance of people made it difficult, so the priests were expected to teach the word as they have always done from the tradition of the Apostles. Acts 2:42 states, "They devoted themselves to the teaching of the apostles and to the communal life, to the breaking of the bread and to the prayers".

That is the Mass! They did not carry bibles with them to Mass to hear the Apostles teach. The Word was proclaimed to them. I also refereed to Matthew 28:19, "Go, therefore, and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the holy spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you".

Jesus didn't say to hand out bibles here, the Catholic Church hands out the scriptures to enrich us with the very sacred text itself. In the beginning, this had to be developed just as the understanding of the apostolic witness.

The Church has no power to change the teachings of Christ. People who have took that upon themselves do so at their own peril.

The response to this was even more odd as my friend began to question how long does Christ remain in you. Is Christ present in waste. That was a bit over the top to me, it is believed that the Lord's presence leaves before that process. Actually, his presence is spiritual once consumption was completed and dissolved into the body.

I took it to 1 Corinthians 11:16, "The cup of blessing that we bless, is it not a participation in the blood of Christ? The bread that we break, is it not a participation in the body of Christ"?The obvious answer is yes. By this time some of the women were gathering around listening in. I think they were there longer, but this was when I noticed we were gaining an audience behind me.

I next went to 1 Corinthians 11:27-30, "Therefore whoever eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord unworthily will have to answer for the body and blood of the Lord. A person should examine himself, and so eat the bread and drink the cup. For anyone who eats and drinks without discerning the body, eats and drinks judgment on himself. That is why many among you are ill and infirm, and a considerable number were dying".

By this time, my Pentecostal friend began to recognize Christ was present in a "sense". I responded that Jesus was present totally, body, blood, soul, and divinity.

To illustrate this point, I moved to Luke 24:30, "And it happened that, while he was with them at table, he took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them. With that their eyes were opened and they recognized him, but he vanished from their sight".

I continued following verse 33-35, "So they set out at once and returned to Jerusalem where they found gathered together the eleven and those with them who were saying, 'The Lord has truly been raised and has appeared to Simon'! Then the two recounted what had taken place on the way and how he was made known to them in the breaking of the bread".

I shared a number of Eucharistic Miracles to show that we still recognize Jesus being made known to us through the "breaking of the bread".

He challenged me questioning if this happens at every Mass? I responded, Yes! As a result of this opportunity to tell the truth, I was able to share with him this thought: If we disagree on the truth of the Eucharist, it would be dishonest to call Catholics "idol worshipers" as you now understand what Catholics believe.

At this point another friend who had claimed to have left the Catholic Faith began to consider the points I was making. That was very important to me.

Also several of the Ladies who had been listening in on the discussion all came to me wanting more on the Catholic Faith. It was a great experience to share the truth of God's holy Church!



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Saturday, September 15, 2012

The Catholic Defender: The Time To Act is Now

On 18 February, 2011 the House of Representatives voted to block Federal aid for Planned Parenthood by a 240-185 vote.

I believe the liberal Democrats in the Senate will plan to put up a fight of resistance and try to kill the bill.

I have to ask the question; how long will it take before the Church really decides to get involved?

Not just the Catholic Church, but all Churches who call themselves Christian.
How long will it take before America says it is enough, after 38 years and 60,000,000 abortions that it is enough and time to end this holocaust.

November 2, 2010 we elected a new Congress to bring change to get our economy going in the right direction, but also to get the Government out of the baby-killing business.

This past January all across the United States, thousands of people participated in pro-life demonstrations.
People braved the cold weather, the snow and ice in many States such as Jefferson City Missouri.

Planned Parenthood has been hit hard the past few weeks because of their members being caught on video giving advice to pimps wanting to procure abortions for underage girls.

It is reported that this kind of problem is widespread among the workers at Planned Parenthood.

If they are ultra liberal in their thinking supporting abortion, how much does it show that these very liberals are based in anti-Christian bias. They do not care about you as a patient, they see you as an opportunity.

Fox News has reported recently that the American people have decidedly shifted to a pro-life stance regarding the vast majority of abortions.

In the early going, the pro-abortionist would try to gain ground using "rape", " incest", "mother's life", "deformation of the child" as their means to gain public sympathy and support. All this represented about 1% of all abortions.

That has changed considerably today.

When you hear pro-abortion advocates today, it is a "woman's right to choose", "it is between a woman and her 'doctor".

Of course the doctor is wanting to conduct the abortion so it takes no excuse or diagnosis to procure an abortion.

The abortion industry is not interested in giving women a real choice, not really.

They are after the child.

Planned Parenthood makes most of their money from performing abortion using nearly $400,000,000 tax payers money for their business.

Other social services they render are used as a front so Planned Parenthood would not stand long without providing abortion services.

The time to act is now, the time for the Church to rise up is now. Every 20 seconds, a child is killed in America by abortion.

Heaven is counting on you, just as Cortez fought to put an end to the human sacrifice he encountered in his time, so now it is just as important today.

The Virgin Mary appeared to St. Juan Diego in 1531 giving us the miracle of the tilma. She advocates life.

As she was able to bring about change to a culture of death in those times, may she become an important message of life today.

God is raising great men and women today to do his will, we have to respond now while there is still time.

The battle continues to be between the woman and the serpent, between her seed and the serpents.

The problem is not political but moral. So much of the anti-family forces are coming from anti-Christian neo-Pagan sources. They want to destroy our Christian foundations. Now is the time to act.

2 Corinthians 6:1-2 states, "Working together, then, we appeal to you not to receive the grace of God in vain. For he says: In an acceptable time I heard you, and on the day of salvation I helped you. Behold, now is a very acceptable time; behold, now is the day of salvation".

It's time we stop speaking in riddles, but be straight forward. Riddles can get you in trouble:


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Friday, January 28, 2011

The Catholic Defender speaks at Jefferson City Capital Building

This past week was a great wild ride that began with my driving 10 hours from Copperas Cove Texas to Humansville Missouri where I met Dr. Gregory Thompson and some friends from Michigan.

The long months of preparation getting ready for the March for life Rally at Jefferson City were about to unfold.

Dr Gregory Thompson (America Asleep kNOw more) was one of the main organizers of the event.

I would meet Mrs Kathie Forck (40 Days for Life) who was the other principle organizer.

Mrs Forck had said, "We want abortion to be unthinkable, even if it is legal... We need to bring chastity and purity back into this country".

Dr. Thompson had a couple of friends from Ohio who also came to speak at the event. Coach Daubenmire, a close friend to Dr. Gregory Thompson and a member of America Asleep kNOw More, was attacked by the ACLU for praying with his football team before a game.

It was reported that about 600 people participated in the Rally supporting life from the moment of conception until natural death.

The cross leading the way in this picture was the same cross used by Dr. Gregory Thompson when he was among 88 faithful Catholics arrested at Notre Dame.

Fr. Vincent Bertrand, a priest of the Springfield-Cape Girardeau Diocese, reported that two abortion faculties had recently closed down.

That drew delightful applause from the crowd. People from throughout the State of Missouri braved the cold and deep snow fall to participate in the Rally. There will be more to follow! Several States held similar pro-life Rally's across the Country. The March in Washington D.C. drew hundreds of thousands of people.


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Saturday, January 8, 2011

The Catholic Defender: Secret Agent Man

March 2005, while visiting home in Missouri, I was walking down town Humansville, population 832.

I went to high school there in the middle 1970's when I graduated.

As I walked around main street, I walked into a store that I had never seen before.

It had the appearance of a Christian bookstore so I went in.

One of the gentlemen in the store introduced himself as Gregory Thompson.

There were about 5 people there sitting together as I walked in. I discovered at this point, he was a former superintendent of the High School.

Dr. Gregory Thompson was involved in a major battle with the ACLU who had strategically picked a fight with the Superintendent.

The ACLU came to his office informing him that he had to take his crucifix off his wall, he had to take his bible out of his office, he could not bless his food in the school cafeteria.

They also paid $40,000 to a single mother to lodge a complaint against the Ten Commandments that had been in the School. Dr. Thompson was subsequently fired by the School Board because he refused to comply with the ACLU and their demands.

The School lawyers didn't have the backbone to stand up against the ACLU. This had taken place in 2003, as I listened to him recalling his story, I remember this story in the news.

This was an orchestrated move by the ACLU who had attacked Judge Roy Moore from Alabama.

As I listened to Dr. Thompson I took a good look at his crucifix on his wall and thanked him for his respect to the Catholic Faith. That's when I was informed that he was a "former Catholic".

There were four other people sitting at a table near by as I began explaining the faith. I spoke for an hour before I had to go. My wife and daughter had just completed their shopping.

As I was leaving, Dr. Thompson asked me if I could come back later that evening to talk more about the Catholic Faith.

I was more than happy to, I had the conversion story of Alex Jones and I wanted to share this with him when I returned. It was about 18:45 that evening when I returned and we talked for about 4 hours.

From this point on, Dr. Thompson would become a great friend. I encouraged him to pray about his holy Catholic Faith, the need to return.

He went to Mass with me and came to the house where I was able to give Mom holy Communion as she was bed ridden.

Today, Dr. Thompson has fully returned to the Catholic Faith and his family also have been coming home to the Catholic Faith.

He has had several meetings with Catholic Clergy supporting his work for various causes. What a great blessing it is for me to have been a part of the Lord's work. While Dr. Thompson had been outside the Church, he has made alliances with Non-Catholic groups who does not know of his Catholic background nor his return.

Some of them might not be understanding about his Catholic faith and so Dr. Thompson has continue to work with them on pro-life and other causes without fully disclosing his faith.

Some of them have come to find this out and were shocked, but ultimately, the inroads have been made and through his efforts, people are developing a new respect for the Church because of his witness.

I will have the chance to see some of this first hand later this month as I have been invited to speak at the Capital Building in Jefferson City Missouri.

What an honor for me to be able to have the chance to speak before many people gathering there.

So, Gregory, you are God's "Secret Agent Man"!




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