Thursday, July 26, 2012

Refuting more of Debra JM Smith's nonsense

Catholicism teaches that a person must go through the Catholic church to be saved, whether the person is aware of having gone through it or not. Catholicism teaches that the Catholic Church is necessary path for salvation, as well as works. Their catechism teaches that known rejection of the Catholic Church, results in a person going to hell. 

This is what Jesus taught.

The word of God spells it out very clearly, what a person must do to be saved. "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved." There is no Catholic church in that. The bible never even mentions the Catholic Church or anything about it. 
That says the who it doesn't say the how. Belief in the Lord Jesus Christ (TRUE belief, which protestants don't practice) is the source of salvation. The Bible says with agonizing clarity that works are required for salvation.
 Romans 2: 4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering,
 not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
5 but after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up for thyself wrath in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; [R] [+]
6 who will render to every man according to his works
James 2: 20 But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?  
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works, offering up Isaac his son upon the altar?
22 Seest thou, that faith did co-operate with his works; and by works faith was made perfect?
23 And the scripture was fulfilled, saying: Abraham believed God, and it was reputed
 to him to justice, and he was called the friend of God. 
24 Do you see that by works a man is justified; and not by faith only?  

 The Catholic Church was not even in existence till the late fourth century. Some will try to say that it began with Peter and went from there. But the bible says nothing of the sort.
Actually, it does. In Acts 9:31, the phrase 'the church throughout' is translated from the Greek Ekklesia Kath Olos which- literally translated is THE CATHOLIC CHURCH. Ignatius of Antioch, a disciple of John said, in 110 AD;
 by the bishop, or by one to whom he has entrusted it. Wherever the bishop shall appear, there let the multitude[of the people] also be; even as, wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church. 
Ignatius used the same term as Luke. This proves the Catholic Church is the Church of the Bible. Debra will offer no such support for her 20th century cult.
Debra's contention that the Catholic Church did not exist until the 4th century is untenable nonsense that she will not even attempt to support with evidence. 

Actually the bible would never condone a church like the Catholic Church, as it is not a biblical church. The more you learn about the truths of Catholicism, the more you will see that the Catholic Church is not at all in line with the bible.

The Catholic church does not teach the true Gospel of Jesus Christ should tell you all you need to know about it not being a biblical church. Ask a devout Catholic if he could leave the Catholic Church and get to heaven by grace, through faith in Jesus.

Debra is big on assertions but small on evidence.

 He will tell you that faith alone does not save a person, which goes totally against Acts 16:31

Acts 16:31 does not support 'faith alone' as the means of salvation, nor does any other Scripture.

As debating goes, Debra is just pathetic. It's no wonder she ran from us.

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